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Frances FitzGerald's landmark history of Vietnam and the Vietnam War, 'A compassionate and penetrating account of the collision of two societies that remain untranslatable to one another.' (New York Times Book Review)
This magisterial work, based on Frances FitzGerald's many years of research and travels, takes us inside the history of Vietnam--the traditional, ancestor-wor...more
Published July 17th 2002 by Back Bay Books (first published August 1972)
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Sep 14, 2017Michael Finocchiaro rated it it was amazing · review of another edition
Shelves: american-20th-c, pulitzer-fiction, non-fiction, war
Outstanding analysis of the Vietnamese people and the American War from Frances FitzGerald written in 1972, so 3 years before the fall of Saigon. A triple crown winner (Bancroft Prize, National Book Award and Pulitzer), it is an impressive piece of scholarship and analysis. As stated in the title, the book is split into two parts: the first part is an attempt to explain the Vietnamese as a people before colonization, during the French Indochina period and during the two Indochina wars. The secon...more
Sep 26, 2014Kay rated it liked it
Oh, how I wish this was not the first history I read of the Vietnam war. Having lived through the era, I had a naive hope that I would have some basic understanding of events and would be able to follow the author's arguments reasonably well. I was wrong. Another reviewer here likened reading Fire in the Lake to drinking from a fire hose, and I wholeheartedly agree. FitzGerald unleashes a torrent of statistics, quotes, and scholarship embedded in a rigorous sociological perspective and never let...more
Mar 29, 2012Michael Brady rated it it was amazing · review of another edition
One day in the late 1970s, while attending the University of North Dakota, I was told by an older student who had spent his youth and his innocence as an American GI 'busting his hump' across South Vietnam, that this was the best book ever written about America's involvement in Southeast Asia. Here I am, some 40 years later, much older than he was then, finally learning the truth of his sage advice. 'Fire in the Lake: The Vietnamese and the Americans in Vietnam' is thoughtful, incisive, and pass...more
Jul 22, 2007Ronando rated it liked it
Shelves: history
This book is like drinking from a firehose!
I am taking the entire year of 2007 to study Vietnam. 'Fire in the Lake' is my 7th book and thank god I read the other ones first. There is so much information in this book that you will be blown away by just the shere volume of the history and politics surrounding Vietnam.
Frances Fitzgerald does a thorough job of dissecting Vietnam and presenting it to the reader all the way down to the perspective of the captured NLF soldier, the peasant villager tha...more
May 03, 2013David Fox rated it it was amazing
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I first became aware of Fire in the Lake shortly after it received the 1973 Pulitzer Prize. Knowing that it was the definitive political/social/cultural history of modern Viet Nam I purchased it immediately. I then proceeded to carry it around with me, packing & un-packing it for the next 20 years, without once cracking it open to even purview it. Disappointed with my resolve I sold it in a garage sale. Move forward another 15 years or so & I see it marked down in a book s...more
Jan 06, 2019Paul Haspel rated it it was amazing
The “fire in the lake” symbol from classical China’s I Ching book of prophecy is part of the book’s 49th of 64 hexagrams, “Revolution,” and it features the following declaration: “Revolution. Not before the day of its completion will men have faith in it – sublime success! Determination in a righteous course brings reward; regret vanishes.”
Virtually all Vietnamese people from the Vietnam War era would have known the significance of this reference, and many would have readily applied it to the l...more
May 27, 2014Czarny Pies rated it really liked it
Recommends it for: Those interested in the Viet Nam War
Recommended to Czarny by: Won the Pulitzer Prize and received extensive press coverage.
I added one star to my review of this book after reading several of the Good Read reviews below. It is my belief that this book will not age well because it was written at a time when all the relevant archival material would have still been classified. Eventually a better history will be written. However, this book opened the discussion with brilliance and thus has done us all a great service.
The great virtue of 'Fire in the Lake' which appeared while the Viet Nam war was still going in is that...more
Jul 26, 2016Billie Pritchett rated it liked it
Frances FitzGerald's Fire in the Lake won the National Book Award and the Pulitzer Prize and like a fool here I am giving it three stars. The reason is because it was tedious for me to read. There are a couple of different ways in which this book could have been organized, and it wasn't organized along either line.
The book could have been organized in essays. Then, each chapter/essay would have an argument and be seeking to demonstrating something. This book didn't do that.
The book could have be...more
Sep 14, 2018Muhammad Ahmad rated it really liked it
An extraordinary work of history and sociology. Frances Fitzgerald writes with rigour, authority and erudition and illuminates the reasons why America's involvement in Vietnam was always doomed. In the first section of the book, Fitzgerald looks at the vietnamese through their history and culture, and how the NLF was able to align its programme with both. By contrast the GVN could never take root and American indulgence towards successive dsyfunctional governments meant that the more resources i...more
May 28, 2012Nate Brown rated it liked it

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There is a lot of high quality, first hand information here obscured by a cloud of pretension and overly indirect language. She is not is a very friendly writer. I was also underwhelmed by her overly cultural interpretation of Vietnamese actions during the war. Often things that could easily be explained by mere rational self-interest were chalked up to the utterly foreign and un-Western way of thinking of the Vietnamese. On the other hand I appreciated her uncompromising condemnation of US poli...more
Written as the Vietnam War was ongoing, it takes the time to examine the Vietnamese and their national psyche without losing perspective. I assumed that it would reflect the immediate bias and make assumptions of reader knowledge, but the author avoided that.
Wonderfully insightful and engagingly written book about the delusions that led US leaders to commit American ground and air forces to war in Vietnam.
Triple Crown winner: Pulitzer Prize, National Book Award and Bancroft Prize. Not too many of them.
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How did America lose the Vietnam War? How could the most powerful nation in world history fail to subdue a small, rural country that had already spent more than a century under colonial rule?
Most of the answers I've heard to this question relate to the broader context of the Cold War. The support from the Soviet Union and China was decisive, or domestic dissent from the Communist-sympathizing left forced a premature American withdrawal.
In contrast, Fitzgerald focuses almost exclusively on...more
Jun 10, 2019Jennifer Ozawa rated it really liked it · review of another edition
Shelves: to-borrow, 2019, vietnam, war, kindle, borrowed, 4-stars
This was a bit of a slog, unfortunately. It was interesting and informative, and about a topic that is important to me, but there were times when it was overly wordy. I felt like the main ideas were spelled out and reiterated to a tiring degree.
Nov 05, 2017Peter rated it it was amazing
Francis FitzGerald’s Fire in the Lake (1972) is a classic analysis of Vietnam’s history and culture. Written as the Vietnam War was winding down, it received the Pulitzer Prize as well as other major awards. That I have not read it until now, forty-five years later, testifies to a dismally woeful education. But to read it now, when I have a (slightly) better grasp of the issues, is very satisfying. This is a book that should have been more heavily incorporated into the recent The Viet Nam War (2...more
Nov 02, 2018Jay Wright rated it really liked it · review of another edition
This is an excellent work on the society in Vietnam and why the US did not have a chance. While it shows that militarily, we were winning, it shows that failures in the winning the war meant that Vietnam was unable to field a competent government in the South. The Viet Cong did not lose because the US and its allies offered no viable alternative. Quite frankly, there appears to have been no way to win this one. Three are great insights into the Eastern mind. Loved it.

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Dec 08, 2015Monica rated it really liked it
From vietnamwar.net
'Frances FitzGerald was not quite 32 years of age when her first book, Fire in the Lake: The Vietnamese and the Americans in Vietnam (1972), was published to immediate and extraordinary praise. Fire in the Lake was hailed for its 'stunning clarity' by one reviewer and as 'one of the best descriptions and analyses of Vietnam ever published in English' by another. TIME magazine was impressed that she had achieved 'so fresh a blend of compassion and intelligence,' and even the co...more
Mar 15, 2011Julian Friend rated it really liked it
Parts of this are extremely satisfying. Her understanding of the Buddhist resistance is lucid...from its early verve to its suicidal dissipation. Her use of the Prospero and Caliban analogy is very compelling. Parts get tediously mired in detail. Good on her for being thorough, but some of this stuff doesn't age so well. Vietnamese politics is not so interesting when dissected so, and she is at times redundant.
She's remarkably impartial in describing American behavior, but less so when describin...more
Jan 30, 2010Ben rated it it was amazing
This book is superb. I hesitated for a moment to give it five stars because it's so dense that at times I had to motivate myself to keep plowing through, but how could an in-depth analysis of the cultural, political, economic, military and other aspects of the relationship between the U.S. and South Vietnam in the Vietnam War era not be heavy reading? I'd never heard of the book or of Fitzgerald before (not my fault, he says hopefully: I was born in 1983), but picked it up in advance of a 3-week...more
An outstanding book of history that remains relevant years after it was published. Fitzgerald skewers the American approach to war in Vietnam. She shows how poorly the country understood the war it was fighting. They misunderstood the role of the S Vietnamese government, the role of ARVN and the motivation to join the NLF. In a severe case of mirror imaging, they acted as if the Vietnamese were just itching to turn into Junior Americans. The subservient role is critical, as the the Americans und...more
Rereading this magesterial treatment of the Vietnam War. It has the reputation of being one of the best books on the war despite its having been released 3 years before the war 'officially' ended. It remains the best book on the war I've ever read (with Noam Chomsky's Reconsidering Camelot coming in second).
This impressive, magisterial book on the Vietnam War seems like a suitable end, for now, to this particular reading phase of mine. It's quite a remarkable book and incredibly information-rich but you pay a price: it's very dense and not a straightforward read. It does strike me as entirely worthy of its Pulitzer.
It's hard to rate this book - it's very well written, and engaging, and thought-provoking. But it's really really long, and not as timely as it was when it first came out. At the time, I'm sure I'd rate it higher, but now it's a book I put down, having exhausted my interest in the inner workings of small Viet Nam villages in the 1960s after 400 pages.
May 31, 2013Willem rated it liked it
Fascinating read even after more than forty years since publication. In 1972 the author couldn't foresee the disappointment and misery (not to mention death toll) the take-over by North Vietnam would later cause. So politically it seems sort of naive left wing, although the rest of the book, the historical and cultural content is very sophisticated.
Absolutely fascinating. I'm glad I didn't look at the title page prior to completely reading the book -- my 'priors' might have changed my reading of the book had I realized when it was written. I can certainly see how this informed the design of the eponymous game by GMT.
1) Confucianism is so alien to the way my western brain thinks.
2) The Vietnam war was some fucked up shit in ways I didn't even know. Like, surreal culture-ignorant ways.
3) This book was dense as fuck.
Feb 16, 2019Shawn rated it it was ok · review of another edition
It is difficult for me to review books where I profoundly disagree with the arguments and conclusions of the author. On the one hand I do not want my political biases to downplay what the author has presented well such as her arguments, her language and the organization of the book. This book won the Pulitzer Prize and has largely formed the typical consensus of American public appear on the Vietnam War. It was well received and now is a s standard text. Unfortunately, I was not impressed.
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3.5 stars. In her usual thoroughness, Frances Fitzgerald embraces the whole of Vietnam under French rule, the strength of Buddhism, and ancestor worship. The importance of this country to the United States, the high cost in dollars and in lives is aptly described. Having been a boy crazy teen, and a young college student I was too immature to pay attention to a war that was viewed each night at the dinner table. Even though this book was completed in 1972, the outcome seemed predictable. No one...more
Jul 24, 2018Peter Podbielski rated it it was amazing
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Forty years ago in 1978 I first read 'Fire in the Lake.' This remains a disturbing reread. Fitzgerald's outline of American's failures in Viet Nam can easily apply to this nation's approach to Afghanistan, Iraq, and Syria. Dismal and disconcerting.
Mar 29, 2019susan chamberlain rated it really liked it · review of another edition
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This book was an excellent reading of the political science and failing of French and US policies on the Vietnamese culture which they made little to no effort to understand.
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